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Also known as "Doc Fritz", "Veedramon", or "Doctor Weird 67"
Ghostbusters is (c.)1984 Columbia Pictures The new Ghostbusters comic is (c.)2003 Columbia Pictures/Sony and 88MPH Studios. The use of names and events detailed in this document are for reference purposes only, and are not intended to challenge any of the above copyrights.<!40803t>
This is a fan work, and the authors thereof are not affiliated with Sony or 88MPH Studios
1. All biographical details about the actual Ghostbusters are advanced twenty years from the Omnibus Timeline. As the battle with Gozer takes place in 1983 in the Omnibus, and presumably in 2003 in the new comic, this is indeed the presumed interval. For example, in the Omnibus Timeline, I conjecture Venkman's birthday as October 25, 1954. In the New Timeline, his birthday is conjectured as October 25, 1974.
2. All supernatural references in the Ghostbusters' histories is removed unless or until the new comic "restablishes" them. Most notably, there are no references to the Boogeyman in Egon's history: it would be cool as heck if Red and company reestablished that, with a retelling of arguably the best episode of Real Ghostbusters NOT written by J. Micheal Straczynski, but until they do Boogey is out.
3. Obviously, some biographical details will have to be completely changed. Venkman wasn't even born in 1969, meaning he couldn't have attended Woodstock as asserted in RGB's "Lost and Foundry". Janine similarly couldn't have attended the 1964 World's fair. Winston couldn't have fought in Vietman, but I do conjecture him as a Gulf War and Somalia vet.
4. Thusly, the only canon at this point is Ghostbusters. All other references are conjectural until/unless 88MPH reestablishes them.
5. Any conjecture is subject to revision or even removal if contradicted by the new comic book. For example, if they come along and say Ray's dad's name is "Julius", any reference to "David Stantz" would be removed. Let us begin...
The rise of Sumeria is from Historical accounts. Gozer, Zuul, and Vinz Clortho are, of course, from Ghostbusters. <!-41003R>
Ghostbusters, from the research Venkman quotes to Dana Barrett. Louis Tully, posessed by Vinz Clortho, relates colorful details of Gozer's career during such events as "the third rectification of the Meketrex supplicants" and "the last reconciliation of the Vuldronaii" but there are no dating contexts given<!-41003R>
Conjecture. Spengler is a legitimate German surname--Harold Ramis admits in the GB1 DVD he got the name from German philosopher Oswald Spengler<!-41003r>
Ghostbusters From Ray and Egon's research. The production notes included in the DVD release reveal that the name "Gozer" actually came from a documented haunting in New England (the notes unfortunately do not include a date, or you can bet I'd cite it), though the creature's history as a Sumerian god is fictional.<!-41103f>
Conjecture. Dr. Riddle of Ghostbusters.net confirms the name Stantz is of legitimate Swiss origin. The dairy farm is inspired by both an RGB reference ("Dairy Farm") and Venkman's line in an unused scene in GB2 ("They came looking for new kinds of cheese, right?")
Conjecture. I theorize the Polish branch of the Spenglers are still nominally Jewish, in part because Harold Ramis is Jewish. More on Edison and Cyrus below...
October 31. Charlie Venkman is born to a circus ticket taker in Sedalia, Missouri; raised in the atmosphere of the sleazy circus (most circuses are not sleazy, but this one was) he grows up with some very warped values.
Conjecture. In the novelization of the first movie, Richard Mueller actually conjectures this background for Peter Venkman, but as it would contradict the background as estalished elsewhere, this is transferred over to Charlie. Thanks to Miss Janine for the information, and Dr. Riddle for the compromise idea<!-70703m>
A son of the Stantz family that immigrated to the US in the Early 20th Century marries a descendant of the Russian family that immigrated in the 1860's. They would have at least three children: Gaylord, Lois, and David.
Conjecture. The name David Stantz is conjectural from Shiela Paulson's stories. <!-41103f>
Ghostbusters. The exact model year of the ECTO comes from a post by Zack on Ghostbusters.net<!-41203y>
Conjecture Notes on the names are below, in 1977. Katharyn's maiden name Melton is my own conjecture.<!-41203y>
Conjecture. Fandom seems to have latched onto the idea that Winston is older than the other three original Ghostbusters. The day was provided by Dr. Riddle. (Ernie Hudson' birthday: Dec. 17, 1945). Ryedale also believes the name "Zeddemore" is fictitious.<!-41203y>
Conjecture. The date was provided by Dr. Riddle of Ghostbusters.net. Venkman's middle name and the names of his parents are from Shiela Paulson fan fiction. (Bill Murray was born Sept. 21, 1950). "Venkman" does not appear to be a legitimate surname, but is probably derived from the same root words as "fink" (The word “Fink” means a contemptible person, someone who’s considered mean, low, a coward or a cheat.)
Conjecture. About all we really know about her family is that her parents are still alive in 2003, and might live too far away to see their daughter regularly (Ghostbusters). A line in the Ghostbusters script would suggest she's yet another Scorpio, too...Sigourney Weaver was born October 8, 1949.<!-41203y>
Date is conjecture from Rick Moranis's birthdate of April 18, 1954; in Ghostbusters Louis throws a party to celebrate four years as an accountant; assuming he graduated from a four year program, he would be twenty-six in 2003. (Thanks to "born2bustheads" and "PrincessArtemis" for pointing this fact out) Name "Bartholomew" is conjectural, based on the middle initial "B" that appears in Ghostbusters International The names of Louis's parents and brother are conjectural, and suggested by Dr. Riddle.
November 21. Egon Spengler is born in Cleveland, Ohio, to Dr. Edison Spengler and his wife Katharine. His uncle, Cyrus Spengler, will run his own research firm, Spengler Labs. Egon is given a very strict upbringing stressing academic success, so much that he was allowed no toys and reportedly an A- on a test brought a harsh reaction from his parents.
Conjecture. Harold Ramis was born on Nov.21, 1944. Shiela Paulson's name for Egon's father is Elliot, while I called him Newton in my old stories--I decided to split the difference and suggest the name Edison. Katharyn is named again from fan fiction.<!-41203y>
October 28. Janine Melnitz is born to Fritz and Denise Melnitz, and raised in the Canarsie area of Brooklyn. She has an older sister, Deann (who later gives birth to her bratty nephew Victor), an Aunt Bella, and a cousin named Michelle Jacobs.
All conjecture in this continuity. Annie Potts' birthday is October 28,1952. The names of her parents and sister are conjectural. It is assumed, though not established, that the Melnitz family is Jewish--one more reason I posited the Ostrov Spenglers as being of Jewish descent (more common ground for Egon and Janine). Dr. Riddle confirms that "Melnitz" is a legitimate surname, but has been unable to confirm it's origins. Presumably of either Hebrew, Slavic, or Germanic origin.<!-41203y>
Exact date is
conjecture provided by Dr. Riddle.(Dan Aykroyd was born July 1, 1952) Middle name is a fan conjecture derived from Ghostbusters ("Come here, Francine...") David and Carolyn's names are, again, from Shiela Paulson fiction. Two of Ray's uncles are conjectured: Uncle Gaylord,
owner of a joke shop and Andrew MacMillan of Scotland, presumably his mother's brother. Ray's parents are
deceased by 2003: the property he puts up for collateral in Ghostbusters
was left to him by them.
The novelization of the first movie suggestt that Ray has two siblings: an older brother, Carl, who is in the USAF and is married with two sons; and younger sister Jean, who is divorced with a daughter, and lives a bisexual lifestyle in California. It also suggests that Ray's father was a doctor and his mother was a housewife. Thanks to Miss Janine for this information. <!-70703>
Fan fictions by Shiela Paulson conjecture that Ray was about eleven (1990) at the time David and Carolyn died in an auto accident, and that afterwards he was raised primarily by rather uncaring foster parents. This is all fan conjecture, however. As a counterpoint, Richard Mueller's novelization of GB1 suggests that Ray's parents die in an airplane crash about a year and a half before the movie (??? late 2001??? Airplanes??? Maybe I better not go there...) To add Carl and Jean to the story, Dr. Riddle suggests that perhaps Ray was David and Carlolyn's clear favorite, which would explain why he got the house they were born in and, by the novel's accounts, neither of the three Stantz siblings talk to each other (I can also imagine Carl disapproves of Jean's life style) (It gets really wild in a "what if" story she did, "Father to the Man", which speculates on a really shocking true identity of David Stantz... <!-70703>
Conjecture. Venkman would've been fourteen at the time (being before his fifteenth birthday in October) Though it''s certainly not impossible for Venkman to have been this big a juvenile delinquent...<!-41203y>
Conjecture. Egon obviously attains a lot of learning in his time--remember, he's only 26 at the time of Ghostbusters. Having him be one of those college prodigies explains both his vast knowledge and maybe some of his social problems. An excised line from Ghostbusters would've established that Egon had a doctorate in Physics from MIT. <!-41203y>
Conjecture. Winston's service in Vietnam is a popular fan assumption, though unsupported by any canonical evidence--though nothing I know of refutes it either, <!-41203y>
Date is conjecture, assuming a graduation date of May 1993 (Venkman was born Oct. 1974). Venkman's doctorates are established in Ghostbusters, though there's always the sneaking suspicion that he earned them at one of those "Send us your money we send you a doctorate" Correspondance Schools--the script for Ghostbusters credits Egon for making Venkman finish grad school. The exact timing of Venkman's meeting with Egon Spengler is unknown.<!-41203y>
Conjecture. Ray was born in 1979, so he is 18 in 1997; like Egon, he may actually be a prodigy and entered earlier; he certainly attained a doctorate by 2003, probably earlier. Ray's bad experience with private research comes from a line in Ghostbusters. As mentioned above, the exact timing and place of his meeting Peter Venkman and Egon Spenger is undefined.<!-41203y>
Four years before Ghostbusters
Conjecture. It is never established, but the impression is given that Egon and Venkman met in college, and worked together since. Dean Yaeger is from Ghostbusters<!-41203y>
Conjecture. As detailed above, Ray worked in the private sector at some point (Ghostbusters), presumably running into Venkman and Egon later--he may have met them earlier than this, however; the Ghostbusters script suggests Venkman introduced Ray and Egon to each other.<!-41203y>
"The Zeddemore Factor"
An account of Winston's first night with the company
This was to be a "preview" comic, a #0 issue, but is not yet on the schedule due to the departure of Billy Dallas Patton from the project
Ghostbusters (GB1)--second part of the movie
Dana and her neighbor, CPA Louis Tully, are posessed by Zuul ("The Gatekeeper") and Vinz Clortho ("The Keymaster") respectively, and when Peck opens the Ghostbuster's containment unit, they draw on the psychic turbulence to release thier master, Gozer the Gozarian, a powerful Sumarian diety. Gozer adopts the form of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man and begins destroying downtown New York before a risky plan by the Ghostbusters thwarts him, sending his intelligence back to his home dimension, along with Zuul and Vinz Clortho.
(The second 88MPH story line, it features an "old foe from the Ghostbusters' pasts;it will start six months after the battle with Gozer in mid-to-late 2003)
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